I do not know who said the above, but I do WANT to believe it to be true in Billy Crone's case! The alternative would be that he is plain prideful evil!
Here his "rebuttal" I address: Billy Crone's LAME "rebuttal" to the King James Bible
Please pray for this man who is so very lost, yet, he means to lead!
Here a man supposedly well-acquainted with the Scriptures, who believes in resolving issues in them through HUMAN LOGIC!! Certainly it must be that the NIV is not quite clear in this matter!
1 Corinthians 2:14
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.1 Corinthians 1:21-25
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
The sad irony is that this man who disdains what he calls "archaic" English cannot write correctly what he calls "modern" English! Thus, should the state of our language usage continue to deteriorate in this manner, the "New Age Bible," which I see as a contradiction in terms in itself, will present English that will simply baffle the likes of anyone with any decent education!
An analogy that comes to mind is: does anyone who is "older" understand the language used in the "modern" songs?? Except the words used in such "songs" have not as yet made it into the Merriam-Webster Dictionary!! Therefore the likes of me will never really know what the CRAP they sing today really means! And, judging by my reference to it, I can only be wiser for it!
From the very first sentence, which is the title introduced, to the very last sentence, Billy Crone has been consistent in showing the very poor knowledge he has of the English language. I find it hard to excuse someone in his position to be guilty of such glaring errors, which perpetuate the limited knowledge of the "average Joe" to whom he presumes to preach!
Colossians 3:22-24
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
It has become quite apparent that Pastor Billy Crone works "heartily" to "please the choir," to whom he preaches his own gospel!
This is not what the translators did!
In the words of Dr. Frank Logsdon, co-founder of the NASB, (A slight deviation from my plan: the NASB "version," which leads to the Authorized King James Bible!) which he later denounced as being "a false translation," stating "I'm afraid I'm in trouble with the Lord!" He further lauded the King James Bible:
"There are places where I believe the Spirit of God led the translators of the Authorized Version.
"You read their biographies. They were mighty men of God; spent as much as five hours daily in prayer; and some of them knew twenty-some languages. And it was before modernism filled the air, and before their attention was diverted by so many other things, television and so on."
Indeed!
Before the "modern" English of Billy Crone, for certain, who seems to get his information in some filthy rag! How dare he cast aspersions on these Godly men (The King James Translators: a group of GODLY MEN!!), whom he cannot list?!!
How dare he slander King James (Another King after God's own Heart!) who CONTINUALLY lived under threat of death by the Roman Catholic Pope BECAUSE he had commissioned the Holy Bible to be translated anew from the Textus Receptus (Antioch), and not from the corrupt Alexandrian version of the Roman Catholic Church, from which all the other versions in existence proceed, to include the SATANIC NIV!
Not to mention he was a Scot reigning in England!! The sheer amount of prejudice existent in those days (and still, to a certain degree!) against the Scots was sufficient to have every evil tongue wagging with lies about him!
Pastor Billy Crone had best remember:
Matthew 12:36
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
2 Corinthians 4
1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
The person whose DVD was given out by me on May 30th at NFBC will be making a video that will address every lame "rebuttal" given by Pastor Billy Crone, which I will post here! [Answering Billy Crone IN AN EDUCATED, KNOWLEDGEABLE MANNER!! by Bryan Denlinger]
How funny, isn't it?! Although in his rebuttal, Pastor Billy Crone is more careful to say "Some have said that King James himself was a homosexual." TO OTHERS HE HAS VOICED THIS AS BEING AN IRREFUTABLE FACT, to the point of showing his having written a Thesis on such a "Pulitzer Prize-winning subject" when in "cemetery school!"
YET, here he has and preaches from the NIV, WHICH HAS TWO SELF-CONFESSED HOMOSEXUALS on its translating committees, Dr. Marten Woudstra and Dr. Virginia Mollenkott!! For this reason, YOU WILL NOT FIND THE WORD SODOMITE IN THE NIV!! Please view: The COUNTERFEIT translations! (further completed with examples) and The NIV translation: Could it possibly get any worse? Sadly, the answer is YES!!
So tell me, someone, WHY WOULD HE HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP??
Does he believe his congregation to be so very stupid? If so, he wants to keep it at that level!
And, just why, pray tell, IF it were that King James was a homosexual, could he not have demanded that such a less-than-flattering word be removed, also??
King James had nothing to do with the translation! He merely commissioned the work be done, ACCURATELY, which title was "HOLY BIBLE," which was just that for over 300 years, and around 1929 became known as the King James Bible, so as to differentiate from the many "new" translations the Roman Catholic Church was involved in disseminating for the purpose of PERVERTING the word of God! In addition to bringing in money through COPYRIGHTS! For which reason THEY HAVE TO CHANGE, ADD AND SUBTRACT WORDS!
Proverbs 8:8
All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward [adverse] or perverse in them.
Jeremiah 23:36:
And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.Deuteronomy 8:3
3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Luke 4:4
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN COULD ANSWER THE FOLLOWING:Luke 4:4
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
WOULD JESUS HAVE RECALLED THE EXACT WORDS OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, PLACING EMPHASIS ON THE FACT THAT "IT IS WRITTEN," IF IT WERE THAT EVERY WORD OF GOD NOT BE IMPORTANT TO BE OBSERVED? Hardly!
Thus, it is an OUTRIGHT LIE that the King James is missing words as compared to the SATANIC NIV!! The NIV has added words!
And Billy Crone, while slandering PROVENLY Godly men, commends the likes of an APOSTATE such as John MacArthur!! Please view: John MacArthur Exposed!
Quite certain that Satan and his minions have taken hold of this fallen man, Billy Crone!
I sincerely pray that he pray to be released from such hold!
Another outright LIE is the fact that Billy Crone claims there to have been "changes" to the 1611 Authorized Version! THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE CHANGE TO THE 1611 VERSION!! NOT A ONE!!
Why does the KJV use words like "Saith", "Doeth", "Thee" and "Thou"?
Do we really need the classical English words to help us accurately understand the scriptures? Author David W. Daniels explains why we REALLY do need them.
Does anyone believe that Billy Crone does not know of this?! Hardly!! He preys on the IGNORANCE of his flock in "reinforcing" this false belief that the King James Bible is hard to read!
According to the Flesch-Kincaid research company’s Grade Level Indicator places the KJV at a 5th grade reading level. The same standardized test places both the NKJV and the NASB at 6th grade level and the NIV at an 8th grade level.
ANYONE BELIEVE THIS IS NOT ALREADY KNOWN TO BILLY CRONE?
So, when it is that he says that the KJB reading poses a "stumbling block,"
HE IS LYING!!!!!!!!!!
There have been three "changes" to the KJV since 1611:
1. 1612: Typography (from Gothic to Roman type).
2. 1629 & 1638: Correction of typographical errors.
3. 1762 & 1769: Standardization of spelling.
The 'Board of Managers' of the American Bible Society in 1852 determined that "The English Bible as left by the translators has come down to us unaltered in respect to its text..."
"With the exception of typographical errors and changes required by the process of orthography [spelling] in the English language, the text of our present Bibles remains unchanged, and without variations from the original copy as left by the translators. (Report of the Committee on Versions to the Board of Managers of the American Bible Society, 1852, pp. 7,11 as cited by George T. Crabb)
ANYONE BELIEVE THAT BILLY CRONE DID NOT KNOW THIS
BEFORE STATING THAT THE KJB UNDERWENT "CHANGES?"
BILLY CRONE IS A FILTHY LIAR!! HE IS PURPOSELY DECEITFUL!!
DOES THAT ALONE NOT SCARE ANYONE?!
Psalm 12:6-7
6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
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AV-1611 PURIFIED SEVEN TIMES**This video is missing at the moment, but, I shall see that Mack (http://www.youtube.com/user/MackQTV) puts it back up! It used to be on a different channel of his (http://www.youtube.com/user/random331)
random331 — March 06, 2010 — YES: it is true:
the first run of the King James Bible in 1611 was printed with a host of problems. It contained an apocrypha, had typographical errors, contained pagan pictures, used haphazard spelling, gave alternative marginal readings, and was difficult to read because of the German font that was used. BUT SO WHAT??
After those problems were corrected, the text of the AV Bible of 1611 is throughout essentially our King James Bible of Today UNCHANGED.
God preserves his word and purifies his word. This process of purifying has been going on non-stop and today we have in our hands 6,000 years of work culminating in a perfect Bible in English.
Foreign Bibles based on the Textus Receptus (and many were translated from Luther's bible or from the King James Bible) are good Bibles, they also form "scripture" in their own languages. What is being done today is the purification of these texts using the final authority of the King James Bible text.
Seven Purifications:
1. Across the Ages (to 96AD)
2. Across the Authors (7x7)
3. Across the Languages
4. In the English Bibles**
[5. In the AV Committees]*
6. In the editions of the AV
7. Purification of the world's Bibles
*Not explained in this video, but it involved committees of men, each translating and revising the entire Bible, and comparing and finalizing the result.
** Wycliff's wasn't put in the list, his bible wasn't translated from Greek and Hebrew.
The following two paragraphs were gotten from http://av1611.com/kjbp/articles/reynolds-nkjv.html (The New King James Bible Examined):the first run of the King James Bible in 1611 was printed with a host of problems. It contained an apocrypha, had typographical errors, contained pagan pictures, used haphazard spelling, gave alternative marginal readings, and was difficult to read because of the German font that was used. BUT SO WHAT??
After those problems were corrected, the text of the AV Bible of 1611 is throughout essentially our King James Bible of Today UNCHANGED.
God preserves his word and purifies his word. This process of purifying has been going on non-stop and today we have in our hands 6,000 years of work culminating in a perfect Bible in English.
Foreign Bibles based on the Textus Receptus (and many were translated from Luther's bible or from the King James Bible) are good Bibles, they also form "scripture" in their own languages. What is being done today is the purification of these texts using the final authority of the King James Bible text.
Seven Purifications:
1. Across the Ages (to 96AD)
2. Across the Authors (7x7)
3. Across the Languages
4. In the English Bibles**
[5. In the AV Committees]*
6. In the editions of the AV
7. Purification of the world's Bibles
*Not explained in this video, but it involved committees of men, each translating and revising the entire Bible, and comparing and finalizing the result.
** Wycliff's wasn't put in the list, his bible wasn't translated from Greek and Hebrew.
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"The preservation of God's divinely inspired Word is clearly set forth in Psalm 12:6,7, 'The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever.' God has fulfilled His promise through the Textus Receptus and the King James Version. Those who replace the KJV with the NKJV will have been duped into accepting a Bible which still bears a respected name but one which has placed "readability" above purity. [...and is copyrighted, of course! The King James has and will always be of Public Domain.]
"The translators of the original King James Bible had a distinct advantage. They were able to use their vast knowledge of ancient languages and translation abilities prior to the time when the deadly virus of so-called 'Higher Criticism' infected the whole field of scholarship. False teachers boldly dissected God's Word with the 'tools of scholarship' in order to reconstruct it according to their own speculations and presumptions. The result is a pseudo-intellectual aura in which no one can be sure of anything. It's time to get back to the pure Word of God where faith prevails and doubt is vanquished"
The sheer volume involved in such a monumental endeavor as translating the Bible would demand that many be the checks, throughout a very long period of time. Typos are one of the most prevalent errors in PUBLISHED books because they were not carefully inspected!!
Shame on Billy Crone for insinuating such LIES when inferring that that there were several versions of the KJV!! This is straightforward malice aforethought!! WHAT A DISGRACE!!
2 Timothy 2:26
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil,who are taken captive by him at his will.
I sincerely pray this take place!
Thomas Obediah Chisholm wrote the following hymn!
Anyone care to guess on which Bible he was reared?
Great Is Thy Faithfulness Hymn (with lyrics)
Indeed, God does not change!! His word to remain the same!!
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.And how can any Christian sing the following in a church that preaches the word of John MacArthur?
Blessed Assurance (with lyrics)
Yes, washed in His Precious Blood we are, indeed!!
BLOOD JOHN MACARTHUR REJECTS!!
The same way as when the first Passover took place, which spared those above whose doorposts was the blood of the ram!
His only Son was to be the ultimate blood sacrifice, the Spotless Lamb!
Genesis 22:8 (King James Bible)
8And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
Genesis 22:8 (New International Version)
8 Abraham answered, "God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son." And the two of them went on together.Please view the following video which explains the erroneous interpretation arrived through the manner in which the NIV translates the above passage!
Where are the Originals? by Dr. Sam Gipp
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15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
"Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice."
MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT HELP OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH!
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This is indeed an inspirational post. The video posted here says a lot about how the tables are turning. As of now the beliefs of the people are being questioned. A lot has been talked about NIV! and will continue to be the same as people connect Bible directly to God and so it becomes a matter of belief in the religion.
ReplyDeletechristian discipleship
...belief in religion! Religion to be at the crux of every evil being done against God and His word!
ReplyDelete"Religion wants to fit us with glasses;
the Lord wants to open our eyes!"
Christ did not come to bring us religion! We need no religion! We need faith; to believe in God's IMMUTABLE WORD, a word He held above His Name:
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
Psalm 138:2