How disgusting to have one who can answer so very callously to a legitimate inquiry by one who used to follow him!!
Billy Crone's behavior is proof-positive of his being a FALSE TEACHER!!
Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble. Jeremiah 11:14
Instead, pray for those whom he fools!! I just heard that Billy Crone "boasts" of sending out some 1,300 DVD's of his sermons out per day! I don't think this figure is even plausible, but, let's say it is more like 1,300 per week!! Look at all the people whom he is fooling and misleading! Who wants to be led by anyone who responds in such a manner?!
I thank you for putting out those vidoes about Billy Crone. I was deceived into putting much time and trust into him and his minsitry. After watching your vidoes about crones comments, I could see that what you were saying was true. I actually wrote billy crone about the issue and asked him his stance . I said to crone the following" why are you supporting a version in the NIV, when harper collins who published is also publishes the satanic bible.?" crone wrote to me" should i not drive a mazda because most of japan is buddhist" ?? hahahaha omg yep that was it. He refused to email any further demanding to call me. he is crafty with words and that si why he couldn t " WRITE" anything most than that comment.
I am ashamed that I trusted billy crone the way that i did . His fruit proves that he is leavened in many ways and we know that the leaven of the pharisees is " HYPOCRISY " !
I cannot tell of the horrible chill that keeps running through my body when I think of how callous an unbeliever Billy Crone is, when it is that he proposes to spread the true word of God to a trusting flock!
I am so very saddened by this, another proof that he is evil! Please pray for those who have accepted that "it doesn't matter which bible..." as has been said by some in that church! These are good people who just don't know the truth! But ignorance will not be an excuse when it is that Christ comes back!
But, don't be ashamed any longer! REJOICE that you now hear His voice!
Thank you, so very much, for letting me know of your experience! May God bless you and continue to enlighten you, so you may help others come to Jesus!
Your sister in Christ, Helga
John 10:
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?
21 Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?
22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
39Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,
40 And went away again beyond Jordan into the place where John at first baptized; and there he abode.
41 And many resorted unto him, and said, John did no miracle: but all things that John spake of this man were true.
These videos were put out by Bryan Denlinger (http://www.youtube.com/user/husky394xp) to refute the LIES Billy Crone has presented to Niagara Frontier Bible Church in his rebuttal to the King James Bible.
There have been three "changes" to the KJV since 1611:
1. 1612: Typography (from Gothic to Roman type).
2. 1629 & 1638: Correction of typographical errors.
3. 1762 & 1769: Standardization of spelling.
The 'Board of Managers' of the American Bible Society in 1852 determined that "The English Bible as left by the translators has come down to us unaltered in respect to its text..."
"With the exception of typographical errors and changes required by the process of orthography [spelling] in the English language, the text of our present Bibles remains unchanged, and without variations from the original copy as left by the translators. (Report of the Committee on Versions to the Board of Managers of the American Bible Society, 1852, pp. 7,11 as cited by George T. Crabb)
I have no doubt Billy Crone is very well aware of this, but, hopes to prey on the ignorance of the church's congregation. You need not be ignorant! Your duty is to VERIFY everything that is told you IF it is that you presume to be a follower of Christ! You needn't take anyone's word for anything! Except God's!
Acts 17:10-13 (King James Bible)
10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. 13 But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
I do not know who said the above, but I do WANT to believe it to be true in Billy Crone's case! The alternative would be that he is plain prideful evil!
Here a man supposedly well-acquainted with the Scriptures, who believes in resolving issues in them through HUMAN LOGIC!! Certainly it must be that the NIV is not quite clear in this matter!
1 Corinthians 2:14
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 1:21-25
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
The sad irony is that this man who disdains what he calls "archaic" English cannot write correctly what he calls "modern" English! Thus, should the state of our language usage continue to deteriorate in this manner, the "New Age Bible," which I see as a contradiction in terms in itself, will present English that will simply baffle the likes of anyone with any decent education!
An analogy that comes to mind is: does anyone who is "older" understand the language used in the "modern" songs?? Except the words used in such "songs" have not as yet made it into the Merriam-Webster Dictionary!! Therefore the likes of me will never really know what the CRAP they sing today really means! And, judging by my reference to it, I can only be wiser for it!
From the very first sentence, which is the title introduced, to the very last sentence, Billy Crone has been consistent in showing the very poor knowledge he has of the English language. I find it hard to excuse someone in his position to be guilty of such glaring errors, which perpetuate the limited knowledge of the "average Joe" to whom he presumes to preach!
Colossians 3:22-24
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; 24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
It has become quite apparent that Pastor Billy Crone works "heartily" to "please the choir," to whom he preaches his own gospel!
"There are places where I believe the Spirit of God led the translators of the Authorized Version.
"You read their biographies. They were mighty men of God; spent as much as five hours daily in prayer; and some of them knew twenty-some languages. And it was before modernism filled the air, and before their attention was diverted by so many other things, television and so on."
Indeed!
Before the "modern" English of Billy Crone, for certain, who seems to get his information in some filthy rag! How dare he cast aspersions on these Godly men (The King James Translators: a group of GODLY MEN!!), whom he cannot list?!!
How dare he slander King James (Another King after God's own Heart!) who CONTINUALLY lived under threat of death by the Roman Catholic Pope BECAUSE he had commissioned the Holy Bible to be translated anew from the Textus Receptus (Antioch), and not from the corrupt Alexandrian version of the Roman Catholic Church, from which all the other versions in existence proceed, to include the SATANIC NIV!
Not to mention he was a Scot reigning in England!! The sheer amount of prejudice existent in those days (and still, to a certain degree!) against the Scots was sufficient to have every evil tongue wagging with lies about him!
Pastor Billy Crone had best remember:
Matthew 12:36
36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
2 Corinthians 4
1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
How funny, isn't it?! Although in his rebuttal, Pastor Billy Crone is more careful to say "Some have said that King James himself was a homosexual." TO OTHERS HE HAS VOICED THIS AS BEING AN IRREFUTABLE FACT, to the point of showing his having written a Thesis on such a "Pulitzer Prize-winning subject" when in "cemetery school!"
So tell me, someone, WHY WOULD HE HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP??
Does he believe his congregation to be so very stupid? If so, he wants to keep it at that level!
And, just why, pray tell, IF it were that King James was a homosexual, could he not have demanded that such a less-than-flattering word be removed, also??
King James had nothing to do with the translation! He merely commissioned the work be done, ACCURATELY, which title was "HOLY BIBLE," which was just that for over 300 years, and around 1929 became known as the King James Bible, so as to differentiate from the many "new" translations the Roman Catholic Church was involved in disseminating for the purpose of PERVERTING the word of God! In addition to bringing in money through COPYRIGHTS! For which reason THEY HAVE TO CHANGE, ADD AND SUBTRACT WORDS!
Proverbs 8:8
All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward [adverse] or perverse in them.
Jeremiah 23:36:
And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.
Deuteronomy 8:3
3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Luke 4:4
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN COULD ANSWER THE FOLLOWING:
WOULD JESUS HAVE RECALLED THE EXACT WORDS OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, PLACING EMPHASIS ON THE FACT THAT "IT IS WRITTEN," IF IT WERE THAT EVERY WORD OF GOD NOT BE IMPORTANT TO BE OBSERVED? Hardly!
Thus, it is an OUTRIGHT LIE that the King James is missing words as compared to the SATANIC NIV!! The NIV has added words!
And Billy Crone, while slandering PROVENLY Godly men, commends the likes of an APOSTATE such as John MacArthur!! Please view: John MacArthur Exposed!
Quite certain that Satan and his minions have taken hold of this fallen man, Billy Crone!
I sincerely pray that he pray to be released from such hold!
Another outright LIE is the fact that Billy Crone claims there to have been "changes" to the 1611 Authorized Version! THERE HAS BEEN NOT ONE CHANGE TO THE 1611 VERSION!! NOT A ONE!!
Do we really need the classical English words to help us accurately understand the scriptures? Author David W. Daniels explains why we REALLY do need them.
Does anyone believe that Billy Crone does not know of this?! Hardly!! He preys on the IGNORANCE of his flock in "reinforcing" this false belief that the King James Bible is hard to read!
According to the Flesch-Kincaid research company’s Grade Level Indicator places the KJV at a 5th grade reading level. The same standardized test places both the NKJV and the NASB at 6th grade level and the NIV at an 8th grade level.
ANYONE BELIEVE THIS IS NOT ALREADY KNOWN TO BILLY CRONE?
So, when it is that he says that the KJB reading poses a "stumbling block," HE IS LYING!!!!!!!!!!
There have been three "changes" to the KJV since 1611:
1. 1612: Typography (from Gothic to Roman type).
2. 1629 & 1638: Correction of typographical errors.
3. 1762 & 1769: Standardization of spelling.
The 'Board of Managers' of the American Bible Society in 1852 determined that "The English Bible as left by the translators has come down to us unaltered in respect to its text..."
"With the exception of typographical errors and changes required by the process of orthography [spelling] in the English language, the text of our present Bibles remains unchanged, and without variations from the original copy as left by the translators. (Report of the Committee on Versions to the Board of Managers of the American Bible Society, 1852, pp. 7,11 as cited by George T. Crabb)
ANYONE BELIEVE THAT BILLY CRONE DID NOT KNOW THIS
BEFORE STATING THAT THE KJB UNDERWENT "CHANGES?"
BILLY CRONE IS A FILTHY LIAR!!HE IS PURPOSELY DECEITFUL!!
DOES THAT ALONE NOT SCARE ANYONE?!
Psalm 12:6-7
6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
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AV-1611 PURIFIED SEVEN TIMES*
*This video is missing at the moment, but, I shall see that Mack (http://www.youtube.com/user/MackQTV) puts it back up! It used to be on a different channel of his (http://www.youtube.com/user/random331)
random331—March 06, 2010 — YES: it is true:
the first run of the King James Bible in 1611 was printed with a host of problems. It contained an apocrypha, had typographical errors, contained pagan pictures, used haphazard spelling, gave alternative marginal readings, and was difficult to read because of the German font that was used. BUT SO WHAT??
After those problems were corrected, the text of the AV Bible of 1611 is throughout essentially our King James Bible of Today UNCHANGED.
God preserves his word and purifies his word. This process of purifying has been going on non-stop and today we have in our hands 6,000 years of work culminating in a perfect Bible in English.
Foreign Bibles based on the Textus Receptus (and many were translated from Luther's bible or from the King James Bible) are good Bibles, they also form "scripture" in their own languages. What is being done today is the purification of these texts using the final authority of the King James Bible text.
Seven Purifications:
1. Across the Ages (to 96AD)
2. Across the Authors (7x7)
3. Across the Languages
4. In the English Bibles**
[5. In the AV Committees]*
6. In the editions of the AV
7. Purification of the world's Bibles
*Not explained in this video, but it involved committees of men, each translating and revising the entire Bible, and comparing and finalizing the result.
** Wycliff's wasn't put in the list, his bible wasn't translated from Greek and Hebrew.
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The following two paragraphs were gotten from http://av1611.com/kjbp/articles/reynolds-nkjv.html (The New King James Bible Examined):
"The preservation of God's divinely inspired Word is clearly set forth in Psalm 12:6,7, 'The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever.' God has fulfilled His promise through the Textus Receptus and the King James Version. Those who replace the KJV with the NKJV will have been duped into accepting a Bible which still bears a respected name but one which has placed "readability" above purity. [...and is copyrighted, of course! The King James has and will always be of Public Domain.]
"The translators of the original King James Bible had a distinct advantage. They were able to use their vast knowledge of ancient languages and translation abilities prior to the time when the deadly virus of so-called 'Higher Criticism' infected the whole field of scholarship. False teachers boldly dissected God's Word with the 'tools of scholarship' in order to reconstruct it according to their own speculations and presumptions. The result is a pseudo-intellectual aura in which no one can be sure of anything. It's time to get back to the pure Word of God where faith prevails and doubt is vanquished"
The sheer volume involved in such a monumental endeavor as translating the Bible would demand that many be the checks, throughout a very long period of time. Typos are one of the most prevalent errors in PUBLISHED books because they were not carefully inspected!!
Shame on Billy Crone for insinuating such LIES when inferring that that there were several versions of the KJV!! This is straightforward malice aforethought!! WHAT A DISGRACE!!
2 Timothy 2:26
26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil,
who are taken captive by him at his will.
I sincerely pray this take place!
Thomas Obediah Chisholm wrote the following hymn!
Anyone care to guess on which Bible he was reared?
Great Is Thy Faithfulness Hymn (with lyrics)
Indeed, God does not change!! His word to remain the same!!
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
And how can any Christian sing the following in a church that preaches the word of John MacArthur?
Blessed Assurance (with lyrics)
Yes, washed in His Precious Blood we are, indeed!!
BLOOD JOHN MACARTHUR REJECTS!!
The same way as when the first Passover took place, which spared those above whose doorposts was the blood of the ram!
His only Son was to be the ultimate blood sacrifice, the Spotless Lamb!
Genesis 22:8 (King James Bible)
8And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
Genesis 22:8 (New International Version)
8 Abraham answered, "God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son." And the two of them went on together. Please view the following video which explains the erroneous interpretation arrived through the manner in which the NIV translates the above passage!
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. 28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
"Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice."
MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT HELP OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH!
I do not remember if here on my blog I had said of my placing several items on some 52 cars during Sunday services on May 30th, to include "The Real Bible Version Issue EXPOSED!" by Bryan Denlinger, in order to expose the PERversion of the NIV that is used at the Niagara Frontier Bible Church. I hoped that there would be some who would employ just what the Bible teaches, and as good Bereans, they would further search for the truth!
I learned that on Monday of last week Pastor Billy Crone delivered his rebuttal which was read to me over the phone, which had me dumbfounded and my ears literally hurting! Yesterday I received the 4-page rebuttal, which reading is just as injurious to the eye, not to mention to my jaw, for which I may need an orthodontist to put back in place! Not to mention intense pain for the PURPOSEFUL misstating of the word of God, which he presents as his proof, for he resorts to how the translation is presented by the NIV, which is so very erroneous and blasphemous in itself. HE USES THE NIV AS A STANDARD!! It doesn't get more stupid than this!
In typing this, I sincerely, continually, had to question the Intelligence Quotient of the writer!! It was a feat to HAVE TO COPY word for word so much ignorance stated! By the way, does the "average Joe" know what this is? NO! It is too big a leap to figure it to be "IQ!" As it would be to own a dictionary, according to Billy Crone, if not a Bible Concordance! It would only help raise the IQ of any who cannot "connect the dots" on their own, albeit it may never "soccour" it once for all!
I heard someone refer to a seminary as being a cemetery!!
I can now vouch for such being true!
I pray all bear in mind that what you are about to read is painstakingly transmitted VERBATIM! And PAINFUL it was to have to type so much erroneous "MODERN" English!! This could certainly make one "loosened in his/her bowels" for intestinal fortitude is certainly a requirement to digest it! INDEED, DUMBING DOWN THE LANGUAGE IS THE RULE OF THE DAY!! Praise God there be some who, such as I, love and respect the English language, my adopted language, and do my best to speak it and write it correctly!
My response to his "rebuttal" will be forthcoming!
Here goes Billy Crone's rebuttal to the KJV as it appeared on Monday, June 21, 2010, on the table at the entry of Niagara Frontier Bible Church, in Lewiston, NY:
Using the Same Logic the KJV Only Group Uses Against Other Translations there Seems to be a Few Problems...
1. The Problem of the KJV Language (Some of the language used in KJV appears to be a stumbling block in
understanding a passage)
There are several "types" of archaic language in the KJV:
1. Use of "thee" and "thou" pronouns and "ye", "thine", etc.
2. Use of "-est" and "-eth" endings on verbs
3. Use of archaic words that have lost their meaning
4. Use of archaic words that have changed their meaning
5. Use of archaic idioms and phrases
Hebrews 2:18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted." (KJV).
Who today knows what "succour" is?
Hebrews 2:18 Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted." (NIV).
The KJV mentions "unicorn(s)" (Num. 23:22; 24:8; Deut. 33:17; Job 39:9,10; Psa. 22:21; 29:6; 92:10; Isa. 34:7) which are a fictitious animal.
There are at least 827 words and phrases in the days of King James that have changed their meaning or are no longer used in our modern, everyday English language. (suffer, filthy lucre, quick, lunatick, wax, charity, gay clothing, etc.)
Here's a modern paragraph told completely in the language of the KJV...how well can you understand it?
"Sith the noise of the bruit of this school hath reached to thee-ward, we trust that our concourse liketh you well-particularly those who blaze abroad that there is error here. Whose setteth thee against us-whoso saith we offend all-speaketh leasing. We be not affrighted, but withal, we are straightened in our bowels. We knoweth well that what thou wilst hear straightway wilt fast close up thy thoughts. With some we be abjects, some have defied us; but there has been no daysman betwixt us. They subvert the simple!"
2. The Problem of the KJV Interpretation (Some passages interpreted by KJV appears to be teaching error)
The word 'advertise' means 'tell,' allege' means 'prove,' and conversation' means behavior', communicate' means 'share,' 'take through' means 'be anxious,' prevent' means 'precede'.
1 Peter 3:1 "Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives." (KJV)
1 Peter 3:1 "Wives in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives." (NIV)
To the average Joe, the KJV appears to tell women to win their husbands over by their "what they say" (conversation) instead of "what they do" (behavior).
3. The Problem of the KJV Omissions (Some of the comparisons of KJV appears to be guilty of omissions of their own)
Jude 25 "To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. " (KJV).
Jude 25 "To the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen." (NIV).
Is the KJV trying to attack the Deity and/or Lordship of Christ?
John 14:14 "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it." KJV)
John 14:14 "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it."
Is this another attack on Jesus and His authority?
Romans 8:16 "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God." (KJV)
Romans 8:16 "The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.' (NIV)
Is this an attack on the Personage of the Holy Spirit?
Romans 9:5 "Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen." (KJV)
Romans 9:5 "Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen." (NIV)
Is this another attack on the Deity of Christ?
Note: It is because of passages like these the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons among others use the KJV to discount orthodox Christian doctrine.
4. The Problem of the KJV Versions
(Some of the "official" KJV versions appear to not be so "official")
Most people's modern KJv version is probably not the 1611. It's probably the Blayney edition of 1769.
Also, the 1611 edition of the KJV underwent various changes in 1613m 1629m 1638, 1762 and 1769. so which one is the "official" one?
Also, if one claims the original 1611 KJV is the only inspired, infallible Word of God, he is claiming that Purgatory is true, since the Apocrypha was included in the 1611 version and it teaches Purgatory (2 Maccabees 12:45)
5. The Problem of KJV Translators
(Some of the Translators appear to be suspect)
Some have said that King James himself was a homosexual. And while that may be disputed, the person of Erasmus is not. Unlike Luther and Calvin, Erasmus never left the Roman Catholic church. And he also did interesting things just to name a few like "guessing" at the last six verses of the Book of Revelation.
Note: I share all this not to get into a debate. Frankly I do not have the time for it even though I could go on and on with even more issues with the KJV. My personal observation is that its quite obvious that those of the KJV Only group and those who are not, are not going to budge and that this debate will probably continue on until the return of Christ.
Therefore, I choose to spend my time working on sharing the Gospel. One thing we know for sure is this. I have family and friends and so do you who are still on their way to hell. I don't want them to go there and neither do you. This is where my primary focus lies and hopefully as a fellow Christian, surely this is something we can work and pray together for.
So many are the "newer and improved" versions available of the Bible today! They can number as many as the choices of cereals on a grocery shelf. And, correctly, these are just that: VERSIONS!! The individual or collective "interpretation" of what the TRUE WORD OF GOD SAYS!
This is completely contrary to that which I was led to believe when I first became a Bible-believing Christian. I was told that such "translations," a MISNOMER BY ANY MEANS, were for ease of reading, the English language "actualized!"
I HAVE AWAKENED TO THE CRUDE REALITY THAT THIS IS NOT SO! IT NEVER WAS!! It had to do with PROFITS, profits in which even the Roman Catholic Church sought to seek, in addition to PERVERTING the Word of God, and causing confusion. A real two-for-one deal!!
Yes, PROFITS, for these so-called translations are all COPYRIGHTED!
THE KING JAMES BIBLE IS OF PUBLIC DOMAIN!
I have been wanting to post a series on the Bible "versions," and, since I do not believe in coincidences, just this morning I got a video that is the answer to prompt this post. I don't know why it is that church pastors are not direct in addressing this the most egregious of all errors concerning proper education in the Bible of what is to be the TRUE WORD OF GOD!
Here it is another proof that whatever VERSION was used in the question IS WRONG! IT IS NOT CORRECTLY TRANSLATED!
The KJ Bible, WHICH IS A TRANSLATION reads: Colossians 1:24 (King James Version) 24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
Here IT BECOMES OBVIOUS that IT IS PAUL WHO IS LACKING the full extent of Christ's sufferings!
I also emphasize that this is proof that the King James Bible is the CORRECT TRANSLATION, and of PUBLIC DOMAIN and not an INTERPRETATION where verses are truncated to elicit a COPYRIGHT, the end result being that MONEY IS AT THE BOTTOM OF ALL THESE ADDED VERSIONS, WHICH ARE NOT TRANSLATIONS AT ALL!!
View "NIV Exposed Part 1 - Missing Texts" by Soul4JC, in three parts, and learn of the SORDID HISTORY OF THE NIV!
Also view "AV-1611 PURIFIED SEVEN TIMES" by random331 to learn of the ULTIMATE CORRECTNESS of the King James Bible!
May the Holy Spirit enlighten all who are willing to listen to the True Word of God!
Here are the videos mentioned in my comments above:
There are three changes to the KJV since 1611. 1. 1612: Typography ( from Gothic to Roman type). 2. 1629 & 1638: Correction of typographical errors. 3. 1762 & 1769: Standardization of spelling. The 'Board of Managers' of the American Bible Society in 1852 determined that "The English Bible as left by the translators has come down to us unaltered in respect to its text..."
Continued - "With the exception of typographical errors and changes required by the process of orthography [spelling] in the English language, the text of our present Bibles remains unchanged, and without variations from the original copy as left by the translators. (Report of the Committee on Versions to the Board of Managers of the American Bible Society, 1852, pp. 7,11 as cited by George T. Crabb)
And here is the video on the AUTHORIZED VERSION of the King James Bible, our Bible now PURIFIED SEVEN TIMES!
Just two days ago I finally addressed this problem directly with the pastor of the church to which I used to go, its pastor having direly disappointed me in the manner he guides his "sheep!"
From: Helga Subject: NIV To: bcrone@niagarafrontierbible.com Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 3:44 PM
Dear Pastor Crone,
I do not find this to be a pleasant task, but one that has been weighing on my heart for much too long. Today, through my YouTube channel RainhadoCanto4, again I ran into this subject, and again I find this weighing even more upon me.
I had approached Pastor Rich about this a long time ago, and my concerns were dismissed as trivial; that there was nothing wrong with Niagara Frontier Bible Church endorsing the NIV Bible.
Well, now I bring it to your attention, for it is that even as far back as Ezekiel, God commands that we forewarn others. I care not to have your blood on my hands. My duty is done!
I am quite certain what these three videos show is not news to you! In spite of my having delved into the perverted translations at length, some of it was very appalling news to me. I had no idea that a homosexual, who does not believe Christ to have been without sin, Whose Sacrifice she believes to be quite insufficient, would have HER INTERPRETATION glorified in the pews of NFBC!
I am quite sure you also know that the membership is for the most part ignorant of such matters, trusting their leader to carry them through the narrow road and through the strait gate, which, unfortunately, few shall find, says Jesus Christ!
I forwarded the same to the wonderful lady who does the Bible Studies at the same church!
Fw: NIV Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:54 PM From: "Helga"
To: "Lonnie"
Dear Lonnie,
I pray all has been well with you and yours!
This has been a matter weighing much upon my heart, and today I viewed that which prompted I write this. It is what we as Christians are commanded to do!
I wish you and yours a most glorious and safe summer!
May God bless you all,
Helga
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This you will be able to verify for yourselves, which, by the way, the word of God admonishes we do, as did the Bereans!
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I must address something that some have suggested about this my blog: "True Christianity vs Roman Catholicism"!
Thankfully, some words have more than one definition! Perhaps it decries the poverty in one's vocabulary to not know this! Therefore, by definition "vs" (versus) ALSO may signify "IN CONTRAST TO."
I would think that the efforts I here make to REACH Roman Catholics would make it obvious to any rational being that I am not AGAINST them! I am against their INSTITUTION, which seeks to keep them blind to the truth of the word of God!
I was raised a Roman Catholic, and was in literal shock when first I read the New Testament! It was only then I realized just what it meant to be a True Bible Believing Christian! I thank God for this discovery!
I have been a Bible-believer for the past 15 years. Praise God He drew me and the Holy Spirit opened my eyes.
My life's mission is to get as many Roman Catholics out of the cult in which they are, quite innocently.
John 6:44a "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him"
Thank you, my dear God, for drawing me into Your fold!
I am the LORD: my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.(Is 42:5-8)
14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (King James Bible)
Worship of mother and child spread from Babylon to the ends of the earth, called by different names
Madonna and Child "Semiramis became known as the "queen of heaven," and was the prototype from which all other pagan goddesses came." --World Religions by David Terrell - // "Semiramis, in particular was the model and original of every goddess and female cult figure in the ancient and modern worlds." --SEMIRAMIS, QUEEN OF BABYLON by Bryce Self
The following pictures show the lengths to which the Roman Catholic Church will PROSTITUTE ITSELF!
John Paul II in a Mosque KISSING the Koran, just as he does the Bible during services
Here is Pope John Paul II confidently being anointed with the PAGAN "Sign of the Tilak" - A PAGAN RELIGION, NO LESS!!
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to graven images. Isaiah 42:8 (KJB)
John Paul II places Buddha ATOP the Tabernacle, in Assisi, to be WORSHIPPED TOGETHER WITH THE EUCHARIST during the ensuing ECUMENICAL ceremony with Buddhists! Here you see a Buddhist elevating his arms at the Altar!
...so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2 Thess 2:4
POPE WORSHIP: Los Angeles Times, December 12, 1984, quotes John Paul II as saying: "Don't go to God for forgiveness of sins: come to me."
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 1 Timothy 2:5 KJB
MARY WORSHIP: 1987-MAR-25: In his encyclical Redemptoris Mater, Pope John Paul II "referred to Mary as 'Mediatrix' three times, and as 'Advocate' twice." AND SO, TODAY, THE ROMAN CATHOLICS HAVE HER AS JUST THAT!!
And Roman Catholics notice not the Pagan fish-hat connection? Such satanic-induced blindness!
The Pope's and Pagan Dagon's hats and vestments are alike!
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The KJ Bible, WHICH IS A TRANSLATION reads:
Colossians 1:24 (King James Version)
24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
Here IT BECOMES OBVIOUS that IT IS PAUL WHO IS LACKING the full extent of Christ's sufferings!
I wish Dr. McGee had emphasized this outright!