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It seems our good pastor doesn't know the meaning of the word "goodbye!"
He claims to know Hebrew and Greek, but obviously, not English!
The following is self-evident.
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Re: Plese read this! Re: Join A Biblical Hebrew Study Group Free
Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:19 PM
Dear Helga,
I am sorry you consider me the enemy. I didn't mean to lite your
short fuse. You are wrong on several counts, but perhaps it will
take you a week or two to let your verbose anger out. I'll write
then.
Pastor Ed Rice
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Re: Plese read this! Re: Join A Biblical Hebrew Study Group Free
Wednesday, February 6, 2013 12:23 PM
Please don't write again! I cannot stand hypocrites, and you are certainly one!
GOODBYE!
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Good Bye - Really?
Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:33 PM
To: "Helga"
Dear Helga,
I have written two short essays addressing the foolishness in which
you are dabbling. You are not alone with incongruent responses. I
will choose one essay to publish. But your responses are so
obstinate that you deserve both essays. Pay attention and learn
something.
Pastor Ed Rice
God's Hebrew is Like
Technicolor
When we stood on the
Southern Steps of the Temple in Jerusalem we stood where Jesus
stood,
we walked where Jesus walked, we sat and listened where his
disciples
sat and listened; Yeah, on the very same stones. It took my Bible
from black and white to living technicolor. It seems acceptable to
make such analogy and use that illustration. But when I said
studying Greek and Hebrew did the same thing for me, I was amazed
at
the backlash from King James Onlyites who expected I had abandoned
and threatened their reverence for the King James English. One
might
be a little sensitive for infidels who say “A better translation
is
...” I get that. But being called a hypocrite and turncoat for
loving the experience of learning Greek or Hebrew is a little
cultic. Holy Scripture is not purified the 7th time in
the
English as some have errantly supposed. The King James does not
supersede nor exceed the Original Languages. Reading the original
languages does indeed bring a vibrant new life and aspect to the
Scripture just as much as standing on the Sea of Galilee and
boarding
a replica of the fishing boat Peter stepped out of enlivens a new
awareness of Scripture. It is still like going from black and
white
and stepping into living color. I can declare so while still
testifying that the King James is a perfect English translation of
God's original languages. That is not hypocritical! Satan teamed
with Brook Foss Westcott
(1825-1903)
and Fenton John Anthony Hort (1828-1892) to malign and
destroy
the Greek manuscript line and produce every bastardized modernist
English bible in existence. That does not make the study and use
of
Greek the culprit! Those in the King James Only camps need to set
aside their Greek & Hebrew phobias. Just because a Pastor uses
a
Strong's Concordance or loves the study of Hebrew that does not
make
them compromised; indeed it makes him competent. Does everyone
need
to stand on Mount Moriah or Mount Calvary to grow? Give me a
break! I
stand by my colloquial quote. Learning Greek or Hebrew is still
like
adding living color! Let's all mature a little bit.
And you still have time
to join that Hebrew study group.
OR
King James English vs
God's Hebrew
Some responses to a
recent promotion for a Biblical Hebrew study group leads to this
teachable moment. It was therein said “Read your Bible in the
King James English and it is black and white with clarity. Read
your
Bible in the original languages and it is in living color.” Three
kinder responses included 1) “You, a KJVonlyite, can't really mean
that about the original language of Scripture being technicolor?”;
2) “Truth is, I find the King James English Bible to be in
vibrant,
living color itself.” 3) ”Really? Then ...we MISS A LOT by
trusting ONLY in the King James Bible!! There is so much more room
for growth OUTSIDE of reading the King James Bible, say you!”
When
such a colloquial illustration about God's original languages can
illicit questioning ones King James Only stance, perhaps we can
all
learn something. Truth is God gave us His holy Scripture in Hebrew
and Greek
and their nuances will not be completely captured in any
translation;
ergo their study brings the black and white into living
technicolor,
even as visiting Israel and standing on the stairs of the temple
in
Jerusalem does. It is not for everyone to read such or to take
that
trip. Understand that although one cannot improve on the King
James
English translation it is a translation. It is not purified the 7th
time in the English as some have errantly supposed, but is a
perfect
English translation of God's original languages. Satan teamed with
Brook Foss Westcott (1825-1903)
and
Fenton John Anthony Hort (1828-1892) to melign and
destroy the
Greek manuscript line and produce every bastardized modernist
English
bible in existence. That does not make the study and use of Greek
the culprit. So too a modernized corrupted Hebrew was used for the
NKJV,
but the Masoretic
Hebrew Text is still worthy of our study. Don't be intimidated by
the cultic cries, if possible, learn Greek, learn Hebrew and stand
where Jesus stood on the Southern Steps of the Temple. If you have
the truth, it will make it like technicolor. I stand by my
colloquial
illustration.
.
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Re: Good Bye - Really?
Thursday, February 7, 2013 4:50 PM
Oh! Aren't you so very generous! Yet, I so wished to have been spared these idiotic "essays!"
I have stood on the soil of ten different countries; my music repertoire is comprised of at least sixteen languages; I, myself, am an immigrant to this great nation, the United States of America;... and you propose to tell me to not get intimidated in learning a new language, when it is that my writing, and assuredly my speech, in English, my second language, far excels yours?
You are no more than a petulant, patronizing, narcissistic simpleton!
Even so, I shall address a couple of your asinine conjectures:
Leaning a new language is NOT the issue! Get that through your thick head!
It is you making the assertion that the King James BIBLE LACKS COLOR because, in your view "no translation is perfect!"
PURE LOGIC will tell anyone, with an IQ above 70, that anything that lacks anything is NOT complete, much less PERFECT! THUS, the King James Bible, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, CANNOT BE A PERFECT TRANSLATION! THEREFORE IT IS NOT PERFECT! You forget you are dealing with a polyglot in comparison to you!
This last issue not withstanding, YOU ARE LIMITING THE ABILITIES OF GOD, proving to be a presumptuous fool! ALL LANGUAGES ARE GOD'S LANGUAGES!! EVERYTHING BELONGS TO GOD! As I had written, I have no doubt that GOD FORESAW translations, and the Holy Spirit guided those 54 men IN MAKING A PERFECT TRANSLATION, COLOR INCLUDED!
RAINBOWS, IF YOU WILL!
Thus, when it is HE TELLS ME OR ANYONE ELSE
"Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you." WHETHER IT BE IN ENGLISH, PORTUGUESE, CHINESE, WHATEVER, that it is His words He will make known to me and whomever else reads His word, whatever the language be!!
IF, IF, His word was to be fully comprehended in ONLY Hebrew, or Greek, or Aramaic, SUCH WOULD BE TOLD in His word! God WOULD NEVER have presumptuous fools such as YOU decide they have a leg up on anyone else! Not when He also warns that "Pride
goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
NO IFS OR BUTS ABOUT IT!
Aside from all of the above, those 54 men were humble men, and if their work did not "pass muster," as you imply, THEY THEMSELVES WOULD HAVE DISCLOSED IT!! They were fluent in several languages, and certainly did understand very well about "nuances" existent! YOU are not the one to first have discovered such!
Their humility is something you will never understand, a pompous ass that you are!
By the way, Satan did not team up with Wescort and Hort! It was the other way around! Something like you are doing, promoting the existence of Bible correctors and Judaizers, who spell the name of Jesus in ways they can't even pronounce, just to show themselves superior!
You seem to lack simple English comprehension!
How would one such look for "color" in another tongue"! [This was a typo. I meant to enter a '?']
Now, understand that goodbye means goodbye!
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