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Saturday, November 13, 2010

KJV Only Issue and 1 John 5:7 by Pastor Ed Rice

Much is said about the word "Trinity" not being in the Bible, but neither are many others that we use, such as Rapture.

Here is a CLEAR mention of the TRINITY, found in the King James Bible:

For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

1 John 5:7 (King James Bible)

Out of curiosity, look for the same in whatever corrupt version you may own (with the exception of the NKJV in this instance, though it is still a PERversion!), and you will see that IT IS NOT THERE!!


Dear Editors and friends,
Please freely print this weeks Penny Pulpit Column in your papers, bulletins, emails, bloggs and twitters . Thank you for this consideration.
Pastor Ed Rice, Good Samaritan Baptist Church, Dresden NY 14441
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Only some of the recipients of our Penny Pulpits will be interested in the following correspondence. It involves some ugly fights going on in the servants quarters. If you are not yet a servant of the Lord Jesus Christ, be aware that the world hated Christ, they will hate his servants, they will really hate His book, and there are deceivers crept into His servants quarters. It is still, and always, better to be in than out.

1 John 5:7 Response to Msg #1045




Dear Dr. Clearwaters? and/or Doug Kutilek
Thank you for your FACTS input on 1 John 5:7. Isn't it amazing how people can walk away from FACTS in two very different directions. I have heard most of that rhetoric in the articles you sent, but it is nice to have it all in one place for my studies in the area. Enclosed is my cut on the FACTS. Although it is only in draft you will quickly get the idea that I am not going to trust Westcott and Hort, nor Nestle and Aland, to determine which verses should and should not be in my Holy Bible. That, not Ruckman, nor some Adventist, is what makes me KJV only. I got a brain, can do research, and will not ever trust W&H and their following. That does not make me the wicked KJVOism cult you have fabricated as your enemy. The bottom line source of this contention really is "Who are you going to trust?" Who Should You Trust?
The Bible Critic, or the Infallible Bible. You the former, I the latter.
Pastor Ed Rice

PS OK- 'Messiah' is Aramaic and not Hebrew, just like 'Bible' is Latin and not English. You may be technically and linguistically correct but I can rouse several thousand Messianic Jews who will quickly correct you; Messiah is Hebrew.

ATTACHED defense_1john57beta.pdf .. Excerpts below

A DEFENSE OF FIRST JOHN FIVE SEVEN

The words of the LORD are pure words:
as silver tried in a furnace of earth,
purified seven times. (Psalm 12:6)

It is proven by scholars and accepted by liberals and cultists, modernists and evangelicals that I John 5:7 is not supposed to be in my Bible. Should I take my pen knife and cut it out? Would I? Would you?

This verse is a litmus test to tell if a Bible version has been tampered with by the modern hyper-deletion Bible critic. They are modern and modernists because they have only recently secured the lucrative copyrights for translating bibles that do not follow the traditional texts, and they cannot secure such a copyright if they do follow the traditional text. They are hyper-deletionists because they have also ripped out many more Scripture verses. Indeed they claim that unidentified 'church fathers' or sloppy scribes added verses to the Bible and thereby they must rip out Matt 17:21, 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16; 9:44, and 46; 11:26; 15:28; Luke 17:36; 23:17; John 5:4; Acts 8:37; 15:34; 24:7; 28:29; Rom 16:24; and of course 1John 5:7; they also rip out most of Matt 5:44 and Luke 9:56 and in Col 1:14 cut out the phrase "Through His Blood". Their trend to rip out verses because they were not in the Alexandrian manuscripts tampered with by the philosopher Origen Adamantius of Alexandria Egypt (185—254 AD) makes the term hyper-deletionists applicable. They are Bible critics because they defy the infallible, inerrant, plenary, verbal inspiration of Scripture so aptly defined and defended by Gaussen's tremendous work “Theopneustia”of 1840 which documented such inspiration and they instead follow along after Brook Foss Westcott (1825-1903) and Fenton John Anthony Hort (1828-1892) and their hay day of Bible criticism, and hyper-deletionism. ....

The 'heavenly witness' of 1 John 5:7 is documented as authentic in these manuscripts: 221v.r., 2318, 61, 088v.r., 429v.r., 629, 636v.r., 918, lAD, vgcl, vgmss , itl, itq, armmss, Cyprian, PS-Cyprian, Priscillian, Speculum, Varimadum, Ps-Vigilus, Fulgentius (As taken directly from NestleAland's “Greek New Testament” Fourth Revised Edition)

Given that 1 John 5:7 is included in all these works, the supposition that some 'Church Father' added it is completely unfounded; the identity, time zone, and existence of such a 'Church Father' is impossible; and the overwhelming conclusion is that the 'heavenly Witness' dripped from the pen of the Apostle John and is indeed part of the infallible, inerrant, plenary, verbally inspired Holy Scriptures. Any Bible Believer understanding Rev 22 will be remorse to rip it out based on the inane suspicions of Westcott and Hort and their copyright seeking followers. (Excerpts from “In Defense of 1John 5:7” by Pastor Ed Rice )

(for the whole book in draft visit GSBaptistChurch.com/kjv)
The 357 Magnum Errors of the
Modernist's Critical Texts
Book By Pastor Ed Rice
in browser hypertext HTML baptist/bible/texterror.html
in portable document format PDF baptist/bible/texterror.pdf
in microsoft word format DOC baptist/bible/texterror.doc
in Open Office Text format ODT baptist/bible/texterror.odt


Mr. Kutilek responded to this by calling me deceived and fallacious and then sending one of his self acclaimed 'fully documented, scholarly articles' entitled “The KJV IS a Copyrighted Translation” wherein he further called those who would only use a KJV Bible “irrelevant, unsound, or simply ignorant and foolish.” I responded in kind, saying no less than :

You pretend that that KJV only people are all idiots and refuse to acknowledge, even brazenly conceal, that 60,000 deviations were required for the ASV to get a copyright, another 60,000 for the NIV, and another 60,000 for the NASV, and on and on and on. You are quite the PR man for modernist Bibles but you cloud over all the truth with smoke and mirrors. The copyright issue has nothing to do with whether the KJV was once upon a time copyright and everything to do with the 60,000 significant deviations required for a NEW copyright. You are either an idiot in missing this fact, or a snake oil salesman selling modernist bibles with MAJOR deviations from God's Word, ... at least 60,000 per copyright! So which is it? Either is equally fallacious.”

It seems the ugly fights in the servants quarters will never end. Some tend to “earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints,” while others “are certain men crept in unawares.” (Jude)

Be the former, expose the latter.

Pastor Ed Rice


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