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Sunday, April 11, 2010

BILLY GRAHAM: THE FALLEN IDOL!! ( 2 )

This is the promised sequel that includes responses given in a very ugly ResistNet discussion tread regarding Billy Graham, titled "WHAT IS TRUTH?" posted by me on "Christians Unite on the Christian Cornerstone of the Nation." I had posted this in response to some very idiotic treads "What is Love?," and "Unconditional love!" I suggested to the person posting this, a guy, to get a dog who'd be happy to give him "unconditional love!" For God's love is not unconditional! Throughout the Scriptures it is met with the conditional "IF," and a plethora of dictates!

GOD IS NO FOOL, NOR WILL HE BE MOCKED!

Even Jesus, on what it takes to being His friend and/or entering His kingdom:

John 15:13-14 (Authorized King James)

13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

Matthew 7 (Authorized King James)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:


CONDITIONALS!! ALWAYS CONDITIONALS!!

Yet, people insist on treating God as if He were a fool!!
HE IS NOT A FOOL!!

The response below given by a "Steve" is simply NAUSEATING to me, but, his were the general views held in this "Christian" forum, DEFENDING BILLY GRAHAM, and in keeping with the "ecumenical" spirit of his teachings that is accepting of ALL views which so corrupt the word of God, AND BLASPHEME JESUS CHRIST, HIMSELF!! After all, according to them, Billy Graham is a good person!

SORRY, BUT JUST BEING GOOD IS GOING TO GET NO ONE INTO HEAVEN! NO ONE!

THIS the result of the REAL HARM Billy Graham has caused thousands, if not millions, with his carefully crafted conflicting views that catered to the masses, to the point people can no longer differentiate right from wrong, because, after all, it was Billy Graham, the world-renown "evangelist" who said it!

I am not posting all the replies! There were NONE, NOT A ONE favorable to upholding the Scriptures, EXCEPT FOR THOSE GIVEN BY DAVE!

I had not the stomach to endure the hypocrisy prevalent in this UNChristian forum, and exited the entire ResistNet site, which means to be a "conservative" site! God help us if it be to the likes of these that this our great Nation be entrusted!

Doesn't this alone tell us of the true state of our conflicting souls, which know not to discern right from wrong, and be steadfast to the word of God?

"There is NO COMPROMISE to be had on the road to the Cross of Christ."
- Oswald Chambers

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Reply by Helga:

I confess my utter disappointment in reading certain, LOVEY-DOVEY responses from people here who purport to be CHRISTIAN!!

Who believe LOVE IS THE ANSWER!!

WELL, MY DEAR FOLKS, TRUTH IS THE ANSWER, AND THE TRUTH LIES IN JESUS CHRIST!

John 8:31-32 (Authorized King James)

31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


And His word leaves no room for hypocrisy!


Ephesians 5:11 (Authorized King James)

11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.


LOVE is certainly not skimming over the faults of others! Oh! Yeah, here I hear those who say: "we are not to judge!"


I SAY: WE ARE TO EXERCISE DISCERNMENT, AS THE BIBLE DEMANDS IN MANY PLACES, AND WHICH CANNOT BE DONE WITHOUT JUDGING!


HOW ELSE WOULD YOU KNOW TO RECOGNIZE THE "WORKS OF DARKNESS??!!"

2 Timothy 3:12-17 (Authorized King James)

12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

13But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.


We couldn't possibly KNOW TO RECOGNIZE EVIL if we lacked the GOD-GIVEN ABILITY TO JUDGE!!


Thus, back to that "saintly" Billy Graham, who is one such DECEIVER who so many of you think is assured of heaven!


GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED!!

Galatians 6:6-8 (Authorized King James)

6Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

7Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


You are no different than the likes of Billy Graham, so very eager to be pleasing to all, and accepted by all!!


I CARE ONLY TO DO AS COMMANDED BY JESUS AND BE ACCEPTED BY MY GOD!!

Matthew 7:14-16 (Authorized King James)

JESUS HIMSELF SAID THIS!!

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicis...


http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/billy_graham_exposed.htm



The Infamous May 31, 1997 Interview: Graham and Schuller

The Reverend Robert
Schuller of
California's Crystal
Cathedral interviewed
Billy Graham.

Robert Schuller: "Tell me, what do you think of the future of Christianity?"


Billy Graham: "I think everybody who knows Christ, whether they're
conscious of it or not, they're members of the Body of Christ...God's purpose is to call out a people for His name, whether they come from the Muslim world, Buddhist world, the Christian world, or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ, because they've been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus...and I think they are saved, and that they are going to be in heaven with us."


Robert Schuller (overjoyed): "What I hear you saying is that it's possible for Jesus Christ to come into human hearts and soul and life even if they've been born into darkness and never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you are saying?"


Billy Graham: "Yes it is, because I believe that. I've met people in various parts of the world...that have never seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, and never heard of Jesus, but they've believed in their hearts that there was a God."


So, there you have it. The world's most famous evangelist teaches that no one needs Jesus to be saved and enter the Kingdom of Heaven. They're already members of the Body of Christ whether they know it or not! All they have to do is believe in a God--like one of the three million Hindu gods; or perhaps the man-god whom many Buddhists worship, the Dalai Lama; or the Moslem's Allah; or perhaps the Cosmic God of the evolutionists; or the witches' horned god, Pan; or perhaps all that people must do is believe in the New Age deity--themselves--as God!


Frankly, if Graham is right, isn't it time we just folded our tents and stopped all this foolishness of preaching? Why print Christian Bibles if the Hindu or Buddhist scriptures will suffice? If Billy Graham is right, we are certainly blowing millions of dollars on missionaries.


In fact, I can't understand why Graham himself is still going on stage to perform. Is it all ego and pretense? Why doesn't Billy just have his aides purchase a blaring, gaudy, and colorful message on thousands of billboards across the globe, declaring: "Attention Pagans, Heathens, and other Religionists: Whether you know it or not, you already have Christ within.


Congratulations--you're on your way to heaven!"

--signed, Yours Sincerely,
Billy Graham, world-famous Christian evangelist.


Or maybe this for a billboard message:

"So you don't know Jesus as Lord and have never read the Bible? Big Deal! Don't worry, be happy. You are already a Christian headed for heaven, whether you know it or not! So eat, drink, and be merry. Guess what?--You're already a member of the Body of Christ, just like me. Neat surprise, huh?"

signed, With All My Love,
Billy Graham.


How many thousands of sinners are going to split hell wide open, simply because they listened to that velvety-tongued apostle of ecumenicism, Billy Graham, who assures the lost, "Just believe in a God, any God, and you've made it. Jesus loves and accepts you just as you are, no need to repent and believe in the name of Jesus."


Oh yeah? Well, God's Word begs to differ. The Word says that if you believe in one God, "Thou doest well, the devils also believe and tremble." (James 2:19)


That's right. James, the brother of Jesus, told us the devils do even better than Billy Graham, Robert Schuller, and all their associates in lying.The devils actually believe in just one God, Jesus Christ! The devils know that the Hindu god, Krishna, the Moslem god, Allah, and all the other false gods have never saved one, single human soul! This is more than Billy Graham knows and teaches.


The Apostle Paul wrote that there is salvation in no other name:
"For there is none other name under heaven, given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)


The Bible says that the Buddhist, the Hindu, the Moslem, the African witchdoctor, are not saved because they have never called on His Holy Name:
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
(Romans 10:13)


These lost souls need Jesus, but Billy Graham lies to these millions of unsaved people headed for hell. He soothingly tells them they don't need the Bible, and don't need to be born again in Christ. They can continue to bow down to their wooden idols, to their statues and icons, and to their devils made of molten steel and clay. But, hold on: John 5:12 reveals: "He
that hath the Son hath life, and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."


Thus we know that Billy Graham is a walking dead man, and all who believe in his wicked, foul message sadly remain foot soldiers in the legion of the dead. They are of the world and are dead to the Truth. But you, my friends, you who know Jesus Christ, you who contend earnestly for the faith and who refuse to accept a counterfeit Gospel--YOU ARE ALIVE AND CANNOT BE DECEIVED. YOU HAVE OVERCOME THE WORLD THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS OUR LORD:

"Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God." (I John 5:12)


What are we to do about Billy Graham? Be wary now, as you ponder this question, because the hounds of hell are even now at your door. Go against Billy and his foolish fables and abominable heresies, and they'll bare their fangs and pounce on you with full force.


Nevertheless, what can a saved, Christian man and woman do but obey the Word of God?
The Word commands us to stay away from him who, like Billy Graham, would pervert the doctrine of Christ Jesus and subvert the Gospel: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Godspeed. For he that biddeth him Godspeed is partaker of his evil deeds" (II John vs 10-11).


Go against Billy Graham and his ilk, and the world will quickly turn against you. Even your pastor and your church friends will probably frown upon and disown you. Some will become as the hounds of hell, and they will seek to tear you to shreds.


Still, Billy Graham, having been admonished repeatedly, yet persisting *in his lies, is a proven heretic. Of such, the Word of God commands:

"A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, reject, knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself." (Titus 3:10-11)


Finally, consider this: The Billy Grahams, the Schullers, and other deceivers now are having what they mistakenly think to be their day in the sun. The world hates and despises the truth-tellers but loves and receives its own. Jesus said of false teachers and lovers of the world:


"They have their reward."


The body of man, however, is corrupt and soon withers like the once lush but brown and crumbling blades of grass. Man's riches and admiration are fleeting, and the pleasures of the flesh are but a phantom of man's unreliable imaginations.


But the Word of the Lord--how exalted, how magnificent, how life-giving!


Follow its dictates and its counsel, and you will never be disappointed. The Word of Truth is not corruptible; It builds and grows. The Word was and is:


"But the Word of the Lord endureth forever... "(I Peter 1:25).


And Who is that Word?


None other than Jesus, the name above all other names.


--Texe Marrs (http://www.texemarrs.com/)


"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and
things in earth, and things under the earth. And that every tongue
should
confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the
Father."
(Philippians 2:10-11)


Ezekiel 33:6-9 (Authorized King James)

6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me.

8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.


I SHALL NOT HAVE YOUR BLOOD ON MY HANDS!!


Reply by Dave:

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:22,23

And I [Jesus] say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. Luke 12:4,5.

Think not that I [Jesus] am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. Matthew 10:34-36

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2Timothy 4:3,4

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Corinthians 4:3,4

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 1Corinthians 1:18,19


Reply by Helga:

Oh! Thanks for these verses, Dave! Very fitting!

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Corinthians 4:3,4

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 1Corinthians 1:18,19


No bigger truth than in these verses! The lack of the TRUE WORD OF GOD is what is PERVERTING our children's minds, today, who never even get to hear it from the parents, who "WORSHIP" any idiot who utters the word "LOVE!"

TO TRULY LOVE IS TO TELL THE UNYIELDING TRUTH OF GOD!!

Reply by Steve:

I believe you are really taking the scriptures and the word of God and Reverend Graham out of context. This is an ongoing problem when you use the bible, cherry pick versus to prove a point. Even a mass murderer can find justification in his actions through the bible by selective use of specified versus spread through various books and written by different scholars, priests, saints and disciples at different times of before, during and after the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ. All people are born of the likeness of God. They are here by the providence of God and all have the free will to determine their own destiny. Even those who never new Christ during their earthly life will have an opportunity to know him in the spiritual life. It is during that time that they will either accept or reject him. It is that decision that will determine the future of their eternal soul. You state many religions, such as Buddhism, Confucianism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Muslim, etc. Every single one of these religions believe in the same God you believe in except they have a different approach to reaching him and call him by a different name. Even in other countries God is called by a different name by people of Christian faith. Christianity believes we have a right to address him directly. Catholics go through their priest and through the virgin Mary to talk with God. Most of these others also believe they must go through a higher spiritual source to speak in their behalf. For example Buddha is not a God, but a prophet. He is one who teaches enlightenment. Enlightenment is that spiritual point that Christians would refer to as receiving baptism of the holy spirit. The major difference is in Christianity it is simply a proclamation before the members of a church congregation. You achieve it via Buddhism by a life of works, deeds and worship. It is not as easily obtained. Even Buddha spent his whole life trying to obtain that spiritual divide. It was not until he reached that divide did he feel worthy of teaching others. Allah in the Muslim religion is also the same as our God but called a different name simply because of language. The bible says all things work together for our salvation. In Buddhism terms that is called Karma.


Reply by Dave:

Hello Steve,
I would suggest you read the book of Galatians where Paul warns of another Gospel. Of course if you believe there are countless authorities then I wouldn't bother. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:22,23

As Jesus said, there is a broadway to destruction and you listed a number of religious people that are on it. Why did the apostles suffer persecution, if all ways lead to heaven? Why was Jesus an enemy of the Jew's religion when all ways lead to heaven? Why did Jesus say there is a narrow way to heaven and few would find it, when all ways lead to heaven? Why was the apostle Paul and others imprisoned and beated, if all ways lead to heaven? Why was Steven stoned in the book of Acts, if all ways lead to heaven. Why were the saints burned and tortured in the Inquisition by Rome, if all ways lead to heaven.

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:13-15

Why does the Bible say there are only two types of people on this earth, a child of God or a child of the devil, when all ways lead to heaven? Why does the Bible say there are people who are ememies of the cross, if all ways lead to heaven? Why did God personally kill millions of people in the Old testament and will do so again in the future, when all ways lead to heaven? There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Proverbs 14:12 How can this verse be true, if all ways lead to heaven.

All religions of "good works" that attempt to bypass the finished work of Christ on the cross dishonors the son.
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:23,24 How can there be condemnation, if all ways lead to heaven?

Bible believing Christians are instructed to tell others about the free gift of God by faith in Jesus Christ alone and are hated around the world. Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 1John 3:1
Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. 1John 3:13

Regards,
Dave

And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: Philippians 3:9
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