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Tuesday, December 4, 2012

UPDATED: Church of Tares: Purpose Driven, Seeker Sensitive, Church Growth & New World Order

I am viewing this video, sent to me by James Sundquist, a day 
after I posted it.  Right at the start of it, it states that repentance is necessary for salvation.  It is not!  Believing in the death and resurrection of Christ, as full payment of our sins, is all that is necessary!  Repentance is an "aftereffect" of being saved!  We are dreadfully sorry for our sins, ashamed of them, AFTER we realize what Christ has done for us, and how undeserving we were and are of it!

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, 
and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart 
was only evil continually.
And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, 
and it grieved him at his heart.
Genesis 6:5-6 (King James Bible) 

It is obvious God did not sin, yet He repented.  Thus repenting is NOT turning from sin! 

We will continue to sin until the day we die!  Not one of us is perfect!  Only Christ was perfect, and sinless!  Thus, we are UNABLE to turn from sin!  But, AFTER being saved, we will not sin as we did before, and in our behavior, the fruit of salvation will make itself evident to any who know us! 

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: 
old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2 Corinthians 5:17 (King James Bible) 

It just becomes second nature to us when we are saved, for we now are keenly aware of the Holy Spirit in us, and we wish to grieve Him not.

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,
18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:
19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
20 But ye have not so learned Christ;
21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with  his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Ephesians 4:11-32 (King James Bible)

Church of Tares: Purpose Driven, Seeker Sensitive, Church Growth & New World Order

Published on Nov 20, 2012 by

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Can the Church borrow the marketing tools of the world and apply them to the Church? What is the history of the Church Growth movement and its false premises? Who is involved in the new evangelicalism and second reformation? Why are these movements embracing contemplative mysticism?
How does this movement play into the New World Order? These questions and more are answered in Church of Tares: Purpose Driven,Seeker-Sensitive, Church Growth & New World Order.

Church of Tares chronicles the man-centered pragmatism of these evangelical
Christian movements in comparison to the Bible's instruction for
building the Church of Jesus Christ. As a sequel to The Real Roots of
the Emergent Church, Church of Tares documents the connections between
the liberal Emergent Church movement and the Church Growth movement.
Both movements' leadership were discipled by business management guru
Peter Drucker, who was attracted to the megachurch movement as a social
phenomenon that could bring about his "new society" and New World Order.
 Megacurch pastors Rick Warren and Bill Hybels as well as Leadership
Network founder Bob Buford all acknowledge Drucker (who professed not to
 be a Christian) as their mentor and have built their organizations upon
 his secular business management philosophies rather than the foundation
 of Jesus Christ.

The fruit of these movements is great compromise of the Gospel and the Great Commission. Rick Warren claims to be ushering in a new spiritual awakening and second reformation with
his P.E.A.C.E. Plan. But this reform appears to be a social reformation rather than a spiritual one by joining together in ministry with unbelievers to fight global giants. Such compromise has led to the
affirming response letter to the Common Word document which declares Muhammad to be a prophet and the Bible and Qur'an to be of the "same Divine origin."

Written, edited, narrated and directed by Elliott Nesch. Original interviews with:

Paul Smith, leader in the Calvary Chapel movement founded by his brother
Chuck Smith, who also wrote the foreword to Paul Smith's book New
Evangelicalism: The New World Order.

Phil Johnson, executive Director of Grace to You, a Christian tape and radio ministry featuring
the preaching ministry of John MacArthur.

Chris Rosebrough, Captain of Pirate Christian Radio and Host of the Fighting
for the Faith radio program, holds a degree in Religious Studies and
Biblical Languages from Concordia University.

Joe Schimmel, Senior Pastor of Blessed Hope Chapel in Simi Valley,
California, head of Good Fight Ministries and producer of such films as
The Submerging Church and They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll. &

Gary Gilley, Senior Pastor of Southern View Chapel in Springfield, Illinois,
 and author of several books including This Little Church Went to the
Market: The Church in the Age of Entertainment.

Bob DeWaay, former Senior Pastor of Twin City Fellowship in Minneapolis, Minnesota, author of Redefining Christianity: Understanding the Purpose Driven Life Movement, The Emergent Church -- Undefining Christianity as well as over 90 articles on important theological issues through Critical
Issues Commentary (

Ray Yungen, speaker, research analyst and author of A Time of Departing and For Many Shall Come in My Name.

James Sundquist, founder of Rock Salt Publishing and author of Who's Driving the Purpose Driven Church?

Eric Ludy, bestselling author of dozens of books on Christian thought and
living, the President of Ellerslie Mission Society, teaching pastor at
the Church at Ellerslie, the lead instructor in the Ellerslie Leadership Training.

Robert LeBus, Bible researcher, apologist and evangelist.

Recommended Resources:

Chris Rosebrough's "John Piper / Rick Warren Debrief with Phil Johnson":

"Preaching should be judged by numerical results."

Because strait is the gate, 
and narrow is the way, 
which leadeth unto life, 
and few there be that find it.
Matthew 7:14 (King James Bible)

The above is Christ's own dire prophecy!

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; 
for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
18 Let no man deceive himself. 
If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, 
let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. 
For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20 And again, 
The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.
 1 Corinthians 3:17-20 (King James Bible)

By the way, it is CHRIST, the WORD, Who is the Creator!

In the beginning was the Word, 
and the Word was with God, 
and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; 
and without him was not any thing made 
that was made.
John 1:1-3 (King James Bible)


The Real Roots of the Emergent Church by Elliot Nesch



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