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Sunday, March 6, 2011

Drowning in the Tiber - A Response to Francis Beckwith's 2009 book Return to Rome: Confessions of an Evangelical Catholic by Pastor Tony Bartolucci

I have only just begun to hear this very long video, which is proving to captivate my utmost attention, albeit in installments given its length!

A Response to Francis Beckwith's 2009 Book: Return to Rome: Confessions of an Evangelical Catholic



Uploaded by on Sep 9, 2010

Part 1 Starts 24:02 Introduction to the Series and the Essential Nature of the Issue
Part 2 Starts 32:00 An Overview of Beckwith's Book
Part 3 Starts 1:33:20 The Deceit of Mysticism
Part 4 Starts 2:17:12 The Ecumenical Connection
Part 5 Starts 2:59:05 The Voice of Church History (tons of quotes - be sure to get the outline!)
Part 6 Starts 4:01:23 The Papacy: The Claim upon which the Roman Catholic Church Stands or Falls
Part 7 Starts 5:06:07 Sola Scriptural #1
Part 8 Starts 5:50:19 Sola Scriptural #2
Part 9 Starts 6:50:49 The Voice of Scripture #1 (Romans 4:6; James 2:21; Hebrews 11:8)
Part 10 Starts 7:55:18 The Voice of Scripture #2 (The Gospels; Judgment according to works)
Part 11 Starts 8:56:44 The Voice of Scripture #3 (Romans 2:12-13; Philippians 2:12-13; Colossians 1:22-23; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Peter 1:2)
Part 12 Starts 9:51:41 The Reformation, Theology, and the Theology of the Reformation

Clarkson Community Church
Tony Bartolucci
tb@usa.com
http://www.tonybartolucci.com
(585) 637-6070
More at http://www.tonybartolucci.com/Sermons/TiberLight.htm
http://www.tonybartolucci.com/main.htm
http://www.clarksonchurch.com/


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I just have to add what I saw made for incredible reading by me just now, as I listen to this video:
Francis J. Beckwith said...

The Catholic Church is not an authoritarian regime. It does not dogmatically define anything. It clarifies, and some case systematizes, what has already been held to be true by the Church in its practices and its creeds. Until the Protestant Reformation, there was no need for a Council of Trent, just as before the Arian heresy there was no need for a Council of Nicea or an Athanasian Creed. Sometimes, events present themselves in such a way that the Church must offer a more detailed and clear understanding of its doctrines.

Thus, for example, the sacramental life, fully in place by the Council of Orange, shows us what in fact the Church believed about justification for quite sometime prior to that Council. From Augustine to Aquinas there is a seamless consistency about justification and the sacramental life and the nature of grace, though there is clearly more elaboration and philosophical nuance in the latter. But given 800 years of Church History, that is to be expected.

Paul said...

Dr. Beckwith wrote:
"The Catholic Church is not an authoritarian regime. It does not dogmatically define anything. It clarifies, and some case systematizes, what has already been held to be true by the Church in its practices and its creeds"
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According to this dogmatic definition, it has been revealed by God that Mary was preserved from original sin from the moment of her conception
At the General Audience of Wednesday, 12 June, the Holy Father continued his catechesis on the Immaculate Conception, this time discussing the dogmatic definition of the doctrine by Pope Pius IX. "We declare, pronounce and define that the doctrine which asserts that the Blessed Virgin Mary, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God, and in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, Saviour of the human race, was preserved free from every stain of original sin is a doctrine revealed by God and, for this reason, must be firmly and constantly believed by all the faithful", the Pope said in his Bull Ineffabilis. Here is a translation of the Holy Father's catechesis, which was the 23rd in the series on the Blessed Virgin and was given in Italian.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/papaldoc/jp2bvm23.htm


And Dr. Beckwith claims the Roman Catholic Church is not an authoritarian church??

Well, look up the list of heresies with which it has come up WHICH ARE DOGMAS!

HERESIES OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
MORE HERESIES: Dogma from the Catholic Encyclopaedia
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